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Old 08-27-2016, 03:36 PM
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Default 91 FHP Car

I wanted to see if I could get some help from the group here. My father is getting up in years and can no longer drive is SSP 91 FHP Mustang. As you can see from the pictures below, the car is in decent condition. There are a few bumps on the body of the vehicle from tree limbs falling on the car and there are at least two small spots that I could find where paint is chipped/peeling off.

Mechanically, the car was gone through in the last 5 years and all gaskets/seals/belts/etc were all replaced. Other then the Hurst gear shifter that was installed, the car is all as original the day he bought it in an auction from a local Florida dealer.

From my research, I think I have a fairly good idea of what the vehicle is worth, but I felt that asking this group, would give me a better idea of overall value of the vehicle. There are 116k+ original miles on the car.

We have thought about keeping the car and restoring it to a full FHP car for shows/parades.

So, what's your thoughts on the value of this car?

Thank you!

John


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Old 08-27-2016, 06:52 PM
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Restoring a FHP Mustang that will BE in the state of Florida is not a good idea. The FHP as an agency is not fan friendly to restorers of cars in the current color scheme for their cars. There is a law on the books preventing you from painting your car in the FHP colors.

I'm not sure on an asking price since I am using my phone to browse and it's kinda tedious. Hope others will chime in.
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Old 08-28-2016, 02:44 PM
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Understood about the law.

Any thoughts on value as it sits?
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Old 08-31-2016, 07:46 PM
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For those considering this car, I inquired and the seller wants at least $12,000 (twelve thousand) for this car.
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Old 08-31-2016, 11:53 PM
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For those considering this car, I inquired and the seller wants at least $12,000 (twelve thousand) for this car.
For those interested, Mike felt this car was worth less than $3,500.

And for the record, the seller never asked $12k for the car.

Here's a cut & paste from our PM exchange:

"Chris,

I spoke with my father and he is under the impression the car is worth $12k based on rarity, overall condition and some opinions of some local mustang gurus. The value is really in the unmolested nature of the car....to someone who knows what they're looking at and knows what they want.

What would you offer on it, based on the photos and pending a visual inspection.

I would add that this car will not go cheap. If we can't find the right buyer, at the right price, we would just as soon keep the car.

Let me know what you think. We can talk about it if you're interested.

Thank you,

John"

Where in that post did I say, "we want $12k" for the vehicle? I simply posted this vehicle here for feedback from this group, as we felt that this group had a fair amount of experts on the topic. Instead of an honest, "hey man, nice car....I'd say it's worth XXXXX."

You can take it however you want it, but if you're going to post private business, at least be truthful in your posts.

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Old 09-01-2016, 12:03 AM
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PS - as this is not a "For Sale" post, no asking price will be posted.

If & when we elect to sell the vehicle, we will follow the rules of the forum and post in the proper section.
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Old 09-01-2016, 12:17 AM
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Here's the response received from SparksSVT to the above mentioned PM:

"Your way off base with 12k. I sold a RESTORED 1993 CHP mustang for 12.5k. That's after the car was completely taken apart and a 6k repaint was put on it. I sold my 1991 FHP for 3500 and it was unrestored, about 140k miles and was in honestly better shape than yours which will need a lot of body repairs. Also FHP cars are some of the most common SSPs You can verify that with the documents available on the forums."

I'm still curious as to what the group thinks. From the research I've done, 1991 SSP Mustangs are among the more rare years - due to a very limited production run (which makes sense, as 1991 was a recession year). When you look at known, true SSP Mustangs from this year, there are fewer in existence than any other year of this body style.

Any other thoughts?
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So, what's your thoughts on the value of this car?
Well, you DID ask for opinions, and Chris gave you his thoughts on the car.

If you have not done so already, I suggest that you go through our classifieds section to see what other cars have been listed for. Sometimes you will be able to see what they sold for as well (ebay listings). I bought my 88 PCSD car for $6,463 on ebay. The body/paint needed work to be in the shape I wanted it, and for a rare SSP I knew what I wanted to spend to buy the car. In my opinion, the PCSD car was in nicer shape than your 91 so your selling price will likely come in lower than that.

SSPs are a strange item in the collector car world. Sure, they are rare among Mustangs, but they have limited appeal because not everyone wants to own/operate a marked police car. It is extremely difficult to restore one for less than you could sell it for. They just do not pull in high dollars when they are restored. It does keep prices down for unrestored examples. It's great for someone who wants a car for a relatively cheap price, but it's hard on the seller. Most of us are restoring them for the fun of it.
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Old 09-01-2016, 07:06 PM
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Well, you DID ask for opinions, and Chris gave you his thoughts on the car.

If you have not done so already, I suggest that you go through our classifieds section to see what other cars have been listed for. Sometimes you will be able to see what they sold for as well (ebay listings). I bought my 88 PCSD car for $6,463 on ebay. The body/paint needed work to be in the shape I wanted it, and for a rare SSP I knew what I wanted to spend to buy the car. In my opinion, the PCSD car was in nicer shape than your 91 so your selling price will likely come in lower than that.

SSPs are a strange item in the collector car world. Sure, they are rare among Mustangs, but they have limited appeal because not everyone wants to own/operate a marked police car. It is extremely difficult to restore one for less than you could sell it for. They just do not pull in high dollars when they are restored. It does keep prices down for unrestored examples. It's great for someone who wants a car for a relatively cheap price, but it's hard on the seller. Most of us are restoring them for the fun of it.

Understood. And I have already done the research between this site & other sites.

Thank you for your feedback.
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