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Old 11-14-2010, 03:00 PM
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Default '82 CHP Mustang 5.0 HO firing order

I'm under the hood after replacing the fan clutch and fighting to get the new belt on - Belt 1, Greg 0 - will try again later, and was about to change the distributor cap, rotor, wires and plugs.

I got out both my Haynes and Chilton manuals and noticed something peculiar. The firing order as it is on the car right now matches what the books show to be NON-HO.

Can someone specify the difference and what would happen if I used the HO firing order when putting the new parts on?

History - records in the file on the car show this motor was rebuilt .040 over in 1993.

The disitributor isn't in there like photos show, either. The vacuum diaphragm is turned more toward 5:00 than 6:00 as you face the motor from the front. Sorry, I'm not a mechanic. Would that be advanced timing or retarded if you rotate the distributor counterclockwise?

Since the motor is no longer original, I'm thinking I should put all the new parts on matching the way she sits right now.

If anyone is willing to talk for a few moments, PM me your number and I'll call you from a 901 area code on my cell.

Thanks,

Greg
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Old 11-14-2010, 05:21 PM
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Greg,

The '82 is non-HO.

My shop manual shows the firing order as 15426378.

Clockwise advance, counter retard.

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Old 11-14-2010, 05:43 PM
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Then why does the air cleaner lid say "5.0 Liter H.O." on every '82 CHP I've seen, including mine?

Thanks, I matched it up the way it was. Got some other work to do, so I'm not able to crank it yet.

Cap, rotor, plugs, wires, fan clutch and almost the belt. Busy day.

Time for a short drive before dark in the B4C.

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Old 11-14-2010, 06:09 PM
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Ford marketing?

The shop manual only refers to the 351 as HO (only available for Police and Canada).

Here's a good link: http://www.302w.com/Firing-Order.aspx
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Old 11-15-2010, 01:04 AM
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Thanks, Mike. Another "myth" dispelled about the '82 CHPs. I'm glad I looked and found that and didn't just take everything loose.
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Old 11-15-2010, 01:18 AM
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Thanks, Mike. Another "myth" dispelled about the '82 CHPs. I'm glad I looked and found that and didn't just take everything loose.
No prob (and I was messing with you a little). Everything I've ever seen refers to the 5.0 from '82 on as HO, it's just the firing order is different on the early cars? I will check the shop manuals for the '83 and '85 and see what they say. I know it changed at some point.
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Old 11-15-2010, 01:28 AM
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Found it. Section 21-21-33 of the '82 shop manual says 13726548 (for Mustang and Capri only), which is the same as the "HO" 351. So, it's printed both ways in the same manual. The earlier reference came from 23-01-6, which is the section on ignition.

Learned something new. I'll still verify with the other manuals and my car, also, if you need it.
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Old 11-15-2010, 02:13 AM
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(and I was messing with you a little)
"Mr. Magee, please don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry."

Now, I'm so confused. Please, if you don't mind, anyone with an '82 CHP take a look at the firing order under your car's hood.

But how bad would it run if mine was wrong? It's been this way for quite some time, I would imagine. It sounded a little bit high on the idle as I haven't got it tuned for this elevation yet. But it passed emissions inspection with flying colors, as you'll recall. No stumbling, sputtering, etc.

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All '82-'86 Capri and '82-'95 Mustang 5.0L engines were "H.O." and all used the 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8 firing order.
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Old 11-15-2010, 03:31 PM
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"Mr. Magee, please don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry."

Now, I'm so confused. Please, if you don't mind, anyone with an '82 CHP take a look at the firing order under your car's hood.

But how bad would it run if mine was wrong? It's been this way for quite some time, I would imagine. It sounded a little bit high on the idle as I haven't got it tuned for this elevation yet. But it passed emissions inspection with flying colors, as you'll recall. No stumbling, sputtering, etc.

Greg
I read somewhere that it was changed to reduce bearing load, but who knows.

If Jim doesn't get out of his tree stand and beat me to it, I can get you a pic of mine tomorrow. I'd definitely go with the 137 order, though, based upon what I've now read.
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