SSP's-Future Value

[Winterpark SSP]

Happy Thanksgiving Guys!

I was looking for some insight and feedback on the perceived future value of these vehicles. As I am an avid car collector, I was aways intrigued by the rarity and "coolness" of these vehicles and absolutely had to have one!

Looking at the limited production numbers (around 15,000) cumulatively for the years produced (there are probably significantly less still roadworthy) I have seen a positive trend line for these vehicles, especially those kept most original.

Any feedback on these cars as well as the 1993 Cobra's will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

[jarhed123]

I bought my '86 FHP in 4/07 and after restored it has more than tripled what I paid for it. I have already been offered a good amount for it but turned it down since I have the car I have been wanting for over 15 years.

These cars are on the rise if kept in an in-service look.

[ImEvil1]

+1. I think that the cars still around will continue to increase in value, with the ones that aren't modified and mostly original bringing premiums over those that have been abused.

I also think we need to seriously work on getting our own MCA class for these, but I don't think that'll happen anytime in the near future.

[Winterpark SSP]

Thanks for the input. My sentiments exactly.

Best,

Barry

[NELSON]

Originally Posted by ImEvil1

I also think we need to seriously work on getting our own MCA class for these, but I don't think that'll happen anytime in the near future.

May be a little closer than you would think. We talked with the judges about it in Augusta. They were interested in setting a new class but were unsure how to judge the cars. I would be happy if they would at least allow similar cars to be placed with each other.

[ImEvil1]

They do....if you arrive together.

I've heard that some of the MCA officials were very upset with what happened at that show with respect to the SSP Mustangs in attendance, and what was publicly posted about it. I understand that an apology letter was written, so I hope that the issues were put to rest and we can move forward. Establishing a favorable "relationship" with the MCA is important.

With that said, I think we need to figure out how the cars need to be judged, which is exactly what I've been told is the concern of the MCA (much like what you posted).

Anyone can throw a lightbar, or dash/deck lights, on a car with some decals and show it as a "restored" car, but we probably need to assist with setting some sort of standard for them, depending on agency, restoration level, etc.

That's going to be a major project.

[jarhed123]

The only way to start that big project is by taking the first step. I think that if the judges are directed to the sight and given all available materials as far as years, equipment and so on, they could study it and confirm prior to making a class. It would help if several of us would become MCA judges in our class. I am sure some one who is knowledgeable about the years and states could probably judge at least two state cars if not more.

After the first step all else falls into place, almost automatically. All of us, on both sights, could start writing letters to MCA for the new class and offer to become judges on our state vehicle or other states that we are sure to have extensive knowledge about.

One could even devide the judges by pre-87 and post-87 cars.

[ImEvil1]

Marcos,

I agree....we would have to be our own judges, or assist with the judging. I think that the "standard" is the problem, though. There are many of us, on more than just the two sites, that have specific knowledge or experience with certain states, but there are many more cars out there that documentation doesn't readily exist for (for instance, the Kansas car that John M. just purchased).

Then there's the problem of figuring out what is correct versus what isn't, based on who you're asking.

I think it can be done, but we'll have to collectively figure out how the classes could be structured and make sure that we do so in a way that covers the majority of what's out there; from resto-mod type cars through the cars that receive complete, in-service-type restorations.

[NoDrama43]

Originally Posted by NELSON

May be a little closer than you would think. We talked with the judges about it in Augusta. They were interested in setting a new class but were unsure how to judge the cars. I would be happy if they would at least allow similar cars to be placed with each other.

The MCA shows are "sponsored" by local clubs. Some clubs allow similar cars to park together, some do not. There are a myramid of valid reasons for assigning specific parking slots for cars, most all of which make it easier for the club to control the judging, paperwork at entry, etc. If a club wants to go the extra mile and assign blocks of parking spaces for a specific group that is good for all involved, who may want to park in a group. Sometimes it does not work like that. I have been to several MCA shows where the club assigned specific parking numbers and required you to stay in your spot. Regardless of how the parking is set up, we as a group of SSP owners, need to always strive to be professional and stay within the show guidelines.

The issue that arose with the Augusta show pertained to comments posted on the internet regarding club officials parking requirements at the show. The comments were made in fun but at the expense of the individuals running the show. It just goes to show how powerful an influence the internet can have, as it is open for the entire world to view. While the incident may have set us back a notch I do not believe it will have a lasting effect. The apologies were made and I hope everyone will be able to move past it.

As for our own class......I think it is great, however I would NEVER try to require the MCA to properly evaluate the correctness of an SSP restoration as it pertains to equipment, lights, decals etc. They need to judge our cars in the same manner they judge other classes. In the past at MCA shows the judges have agreed to judge the car and not penalize me any points for the extra police equipment installed in the car. I think this works well. Personally I couldn't care less if my car gets judged or not. I don't go to shows for that reason.

[ImEvil1]

Originally Posted by NoDrama43

As for our own class......I think it is great, however I would NEVER try to require the MCA to properly evaluate the correctness of an SSP restoration as it pertains to equipment, lights, decals etc. They need to judge our cars in the same manner they judge other classes. In the past at MCA shows the judges have agreed to judge the car and not penalize me any points for the extra police equipment installed in the car. I think this works well. Personally I couldn't care less if my car gets judged or not. I don't go to shows for that reason.

I'll disagree...I think we'll eventually see it, and that we need to consider the equipment, lights, decals, etc. Our cars are not like the other classes. I think it's really even more difficult to properly restore one, versus the same civilian car, because you not only have to restore the Mustang, but you also have to find the correct equipment for it. We strive to maintain the "correctness" of these cars, and the class you describe above would allow someone to add whatever equipment that they wanted, whether the right stuff or not, and have it be judged against someone who spent significant time and effort finding the correct stuff.

Don't get me wrong....there could still be classes for resto-mod, clones, cars restored to factory-original (without equipment), etc.

Personally, I think that judging would be a good thing, and will only help educate and help us make our cars that much more better (when done appropriately).