New member from Maine

Norm · #1 03-09-2017, 07:01 PM

I have attachd pics of the car, part of the dash, and buck tags. I couldn't get a decent pic of the buck tags because they were folded in half so I had to remove them; each attached with a single phillips screw; not stapled. Door placard is not present on the car. Engine bay, door jambs and complete exterior was painted before I owned it. I didn't purchase the car because I thought it was an SSP and it wasn't sold to me with that info. So, I'm not sure if the owner knew it was an SSP or not. I purchased it because it was a nice looking and running coupe. Later I thought it may have been an SSP based upon some options that it had and the discovery of 2 buck tags.

Norm · #2 03-09-2017, 07:03 PM

Additional pics.

FoxChassis · #3 03-09-2017, 07:43 PM

1989 DSO 21-0235 were marked GSPs. Could 1989 DSO 21-0236 be unmarked GSPs?

1FABP40E2KF284826
1FABP40E4KF284827
1FABP40E6KF284828
1FABP40E8KF284829
1FABP40E4KF284830 - Georgia State Patrol, "GEORGIA" on buck tag, 21-0235, special paint (M6062 M5979)
1FABP40E6KF284831 - Georgia State Patrol, "GEORGIE" on buck tag, 21-0235, special paint (M6062 M5979)
1FABP40E8KF284832
1FABP40EXKF284833
1FABP40E1KF284834
1FABP40E3KF284835
1FABP40E5KF284836
1FABP40E7KF284837
1FABP40E9KF284838
1FABP40E0KF284839
1FABP40E7KF284840
1FABP40E9KF284841
1FABP40E0KF284842
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1FABP40E0KF289894
1FABP40E2KF289895
1FABP40E4KF289896
1FABP40E6KF289897
1FABP40E8KF289898 - unconfirmed agency use, "STATE" on buck tag, 21-0236, 7N paint
1FABP40EXKF289899
1FABP40E2KF289900 - unconfirmed agency use, "STATE" on buck tag, 21-0236, 7N paint
1FABP40E4KF289901
1FABP40E6KF289902 - unconfirmed agency use, "STATE POLICE" on buck tag, 21-0236, 1K paint
1FABP40E8KF289903
1FABP40EXKF289904
1FABP40E1KF289905
1FABP40E3KF289906
1FABP40E5KF289907 - unconfirmed agency use, "STATE" on buck tag, 21-0236, 9L paint
1FABP40E7KF289908
1FABP40E9KF289909
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kapracing · #4 03-09-2017, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxChassis

1989 DSO 21-0235 were marked GSPs. Could 1989 DSO 21-0236 be unmarked GSPs?

1FABP40E2KF284826
1FABP40E4KF284827
1FABP40E6KF284828
1FABP40E8KF284829
1FABP40E4KF284830 - Georgia State Patrol, "GEORGIA" on buck tag, 21-0235, special paint (M6062 M5979)
1FABP40E6KF284831 - Georgia State Patrol, "GEORGIE" on buck tag, 21-0235, special paint (M6062 M5979)
1FABP40E8KF284832
1FABP40EXKF284833
1FABP40E1KF284834
1FABP40E3KF284835
1FABP40E5KF284836
1FABP40E7KF284837
1FABP40E9KF284838
1FABP40E0KF284839
1FABP40E7KF284840
1FABP40E9KF284841
1FABP40E0KF284842
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1FABP40E0KF289894
1FABP40E2KF289895
1FABP40E4KF289896
1FABP40E6KF289897
1FABP40E8KF289898 - unconfirmed agency use, "STATE" on buck tag, 21-0236, 7N paint
1FABP40EXKF289899
1FABP40E2KF289900 - unconfirmed agency use, "STATE" on buck tag, 21-0236, 7N paint
1FABP40E4KF289901
1FABP40E6KF289902 - unconfirmed agency use, "STATE POLICE" on buck tag, 21-0236, 1K paint
1FABP40E8KF289903
1FABP40EXKF289904
1FABP40E1KF289905
1FABP40E3KF289906
1FABP40E5KF289907 - unconfirmed agency use, "STATE" on buck tag, 21-0236, 9L paint
1FABP40E7KF289908
1FABP40E9KF289909
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GSP ordered 42 SSP's in 89... GSP did not use unmarked mustangs... GBI repainted a few decommissioned GSP's and used them however. The batch of 27 and batch of 17 are all 42 with two cars in those batches not GSP units.

kapracing · #5 03-11-2017, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Norm

Ok, thanks. I agree, there doesn't appear to be any standard method to the buck tags or way to determine the specific agency use. I'll wait to see what you have on VINs, or if mine is even on record in that list. Have you ever come across a "build sheet" stashed away in any of your vehicles? Are the SSP options a possible clue, or is that another dead end? Again, thanks for the info.

[quote=FoxChassis;54985]1989 DSO 21-0235 were marked GSPs. Could 1989 DSO 21-0236 be unmarked GSPs?

1FABP40E2KF284826
1FABP40E4KF284827
1FABP40E6KF284828
1FABP40E8KF284829
1FABP40E4KF284830 - Georgia State Patrol, "GEORGIA" on buck tag, 21-0235, special paint (M6062 M5979)
1FABP40E6KF284831 - Georgia State Patrol, "GEORGIE" on buck tag, 21-0235, special paint (M6062 M5979)
1FABP40E8KF284832
1FABP40EXKF284833
1FABP40E1KF284834
1FABP40E3KF284835
1FABP40E5KF284836
1FABP40E7KF284837
1FABP40E9KF284838
1FABP40E0KF284839
1FABP40E7KF284840
1FABP40E9KF284841
1FABP40E0KF284842
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All 17 of these cars are GSP plus there is a batch Mick did not list of 27 car prior to these with all but the first two being GSP cars for the total of 42. Those 42 vins are the only ones ordered and used by the GSP for 1989. I'll try to see if anyone knows anyone that may be familair with the Hall county cars as that what I'm fairly certain your is...

ImEvil1 · #6 03-11-2017, 10:51 AM

Norm,

Your bucktags confirm the car as an SSP. We have a ton of cars on the list with unconfirmed agency usage, many are also confirmed SSP cars. Sometimes, it's easier to show what it is and not what agency it came from.

FoxChassis · #7 03-11-2017, 03:24 PM

I'm confused by "STATE" being on these 21-0236 units. Why would that be if they were originally used by Hall County? A grant perhaps? Or perhaps Hall Co got them second-hand after the 1st agency used them?

ImEvil1 · #8 03-11-2017, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FoxChassis

I'm confused by "STATE" being on these 21-0236 units. Why would that be if they were originally used by Hall County? A grant perhaps? Or perhaps Hall Co got them second-hand after the 1st agency used them?

"State" could have been many other agencies besides GSP (but still State of GA). We have seen all kinds of different variations of what was stamped into the buck tags. Hopefully, one of these cars will surface with a build sheet in it which could shed some more light on the order.

kapracing · #9 03-12-2017, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxChassis

I'm confused by "STATE" being on these 21-0236 units. Why would that be if they were originally used by Hall County? A grant perhaps? Or perhaps Hall Co got them second-hand after the 1st agency used them?

1FABP40E5KF135908 - State of Georgia

I owned this one a few years back. It is believed to be a Cobb Co SSP. But has Georgia on buck tag as well. I have the complete GSP GBI usage records which this and the Hall Co cars were NOT a part of. Somehow when ordered by local agencies these cars evidently got labeled Georgia on buck tags... Could there be another State agency that ordered some SSP's? Possibly we know the DOR ordered one in 84...

Norm · #10 03-11-2017, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImEvil1

Norm,

Your bucktags confirm the car as an SSP. We have a ton of cars on the list with unconfirmed agency usage, many are also confirmed SSP cars. Sometimes, it's easier to show what it is and not what agency it came from.

Thanks, Mike. It all makes sense now that I've had a few days to go through this site and see how it's setup. There's a ton of useful information about these cars on here and thousands of hours put into organizing the data. The amount of information in here is impressive.