Special Service Mustang.net Forums

Special Service Mustang.net Forums (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/forums/index.php)
-   Special Service Mustang Tech (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=5)
-   -   > SSP VIN Research < (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3239)

ImEvil1 03-16-2011 05:04 PM

> SSP VIN Research <
 
Due to discussions in the past on this subject, as well as recently in the thread below:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...?t=3140&page=2

I'd like to put a call out there for anyone who has done VIN research for a specific agency/year and wants to share.

I'm not trying to put together a "registry", as I don't really think it's feasible to do so. I would, however, like to work towards a page that shows VIN ranges for a particular order, backed up by pics of door tags, buck tags, build sheets, special parts lists, or other documentation.

This could he helpful for someone who is trying to figure out what they have, as well as additional documentation for those who do already know or may be looking for more info.

FoxChassis has already volunteered to assist by providing some of his years worth of VIN compiling, so this has the potential to be something really special.

========== ========== ========== ========== ========== ==========


28HopUp 03-17-2011 04:53 PM

Sounds great Mike - way to go! I'm not sure that I'd be of any help to you or not, but I'll at least encourage your efforts! :D

FoxChassis 03-17-2011 08:04 PM

Mike now has lists of consecutive (3 or more) 5.0L coupe VINs for '82 through '86 model years. Working on '87+ now.

28HopUp 03-18-2011 10:28 AM

Mike, have you figured out how you will be making the data accessible? I know the problem with the other SSP VIN Registry is the need to keep the information current and correct. The vBulletin software has a provision for creating a TimeSlip Database for forums that have a racing section. I wonder if something like that VB feature could be used in this situation?

ImEvil1 03-18-2011 11:57 AM

We're definitely due for a software update, but I'm trying to keep things as simple as possible. Mick sent me the data in .txt format, and I'll be going through the door data tags, build sheets, and other forms of documentation for each order number (both what he sent, and what we have) to correlate with the VINs.

What I'm envisioning is a list of VINs, organized by year, with hyperlinks on the VINs we have info on relating to agency usage, DSO number, etc. This will only be for those cars we've verified.

Guys, I know many of you have pics of cars in junkyards, bucktags from wrecks, or have done specific research for VINs from a specific agency. If so, please post them up in this thread so we can add those into the process.

Bill, I think we can edit the page (keep it updated) from what gets posted in here and verified.

MOstang 03-18-2011 01:27 PM

Mike - I'm in favor of anything we can do to further the research on SSPs. Documenting what we find is a big part of that effort to ensure it doesn't become lost or can't be shared. Not sure how much I can help but am happy to do so wherever I can add value. I do have a little more than 1/3 of the Minnesota SSP VINs identified. Those have been shared and posted on .Org. I did't really notice if the Michigan VINs have been posted but if not I'll be sharing those and happy to with you as well.

ImEvil1 03-18-2011 03:35 PM

Thanks, Mike. Feel free to post up any of the VINs you have identified in this thread.

Mick is working his magic on the aero cars now, so we are starting with the 4 eyed variety.

NoDrama43 03-19-2011 11:22 AM

Mike,

I have some info for this project but will need to scan handwritten documents. I have all the 89 Michigan vins, and also a list of Oregon, Washington, Florida, California, Idaho, Missouri and probably a few others state/years I have forgotten about. I will need to scan some docs and email it all to you. I think some of it you may have already.

ImEvil1 03-19-2011 12:14 PM

Jim,

I have the same FL and CA stuff that you do, plus the stuff I collected when I went to the auctions in FL for some additional FHP info. I do not have any of the rest of what you mentioned.

Don't spend too much time scanning....I'm thinking as long as a VIN range can be verified via build/buck/door tag info, we are good.

Bill,

That's one of the problems....but the one over there is impossible to keep current because of the extra info listed on it. The data we are going to put together will never change (unless we find errors), it will just need to be added to as more info and new cars are discovered and verified.

FoxChassis 03-22-2011 12:20 AM

First year aero is done and sent!

MOstang 04-06-2011 07:21 PM

Mike - I sent you a PM with Minnesota State Patrol SSP VIN numbers I've collected. Total of 9 out of the 20 purchased so far identified.

ImEvil1 04-06-2011 07:42 PM

Got it....thanks, Mike.

ssp91ssp 04-07-2011 09:11 AM

Evil, I have a CSP auction sheet with several Mustang Vin #'s ...Would that help you out at all???

ImEvil1 04-07-2011 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssp91ssp (Post 24601)
Evil, I have a CSP auction sheet with several Mustang Vin #'s ...Would that help you out at all???

Sure would. You can post them up here or PM me if you'd like. This project is coming along nicely.

ssp91ssp 04-07-2011 01:37 PM

Colorado State Patrol Vin #'s
 
Guys ...These vin #'s are off an auction sheet that came with my CSP
documentation / history.
The only date on the sheet is the following ..Oct 22, 1992


1988- 1FABP40E0JF220637 car #426
1988- 1FABP40EOJF220640 car #479
1988- 1FABP40EXJF220645 car #246 This is my car.:p
1989- 1FABP40E7KF213346 #3
1989- 1FABP40E2KF213349 #67
1989- 1FABP40E0KF213351 #302
1989- 1FABP40E4KF213353 #355
1989- 1FABP40E6KF213354 #136
1989- 1FABP40E5KF213359 #53
1989- 1FABP40E5KF213362 #76
1989- 1FABP40E2KF213366 #49
1989- 1FABP40E4KF213367 #115
1FABP40E0KF261383 Aurora CO

I also have the appox mileage at auction if you need it..??
Hope this helps.

ImEvil1 04-07-2011 03:33 PM

Excellent info....thanks, Hector.

kapracing 04-11-2011 11:57 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Here's VIN door sticker and buck tag from a 91 FHP for your list. I'd imagine you've already got the 84 FHP we've been discusing and my 89 georgia ssp?...

FoxChassis 04-12-2011 12:28 AM

88 - 220637, 640, and 645 are within a batch of 115 consecutive VINs (220636-220750)

89 - 213346, 349, 351, 353, 354, 359, 362, 366, and 367 are within a batch of 26 consecutive VINs (213342-213367)

89 - 261383 is within a batch of 69 consecutive VINs (261378-261446)

91 - 141393 is within a batch of 109 consecutive VINs (141327-141435)

kapracing 04-12-2011 12:49 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Is this one in any consecutive run?

FoxChassis 04-12-2011 09:03 AM

Yes ... 135906-135912

kapracing 04-12-2011 01:37 PM

Any info on what those SSP's were?

FoxChassis 04-12-2011 02:50 PM

I myself do not have any info other than VINs.

FoxChassis 04-13-2011 01:14 PM

Uploaded all consecutive '82 through '93 5.0L coupe VINs here:

http://foxchassis.com/VINs/SSP/Consecutive%20VINs/

NoDrama43 04-13-2011 04:02 PM

wow....excellent info... thanks for sharing !!

MOstang 04-13-2011 06:30 PM

very nice...thank you.

FoxChassis 04-15-2011 12:18 PM

Well that didn't last long. Tried to move the site to a PC outside of the protected network and it no worky. Moved it back to the original location and it doesn't work either.

ImEvil1 04-15-2011 12:32 PM

No worries. I've started on the pages for the site here, and we can just keep adding as more info comes to light. Wouldn't have been possible without your help, so thanks again.

ssp91ssp 04-15-2011 01:14 PM

Many THANKS !!!!! FoxChassis .:2thumbs: to the rest for helping out with
vin #'s.

FoxChassis 04-17-2011 12:49 AM

Back up again. I guess when the place that I have my domain name parked said it would be 96 hours for an URL forwarding change to take affect, they meant it.

FoxChassis 04-21-2011 10:10 AM

Updated again. Now it's two directories: one with all consecutive batches and one with only consecutive batches that have a known DSO (and possibly department).

stadair 04-21-2011 10:00 PM

Confused
 
I'm a little confused. Mine, 111908 has a DSO of 72 (San Jose). And it definetly was painted B&W. So why is it listed under without DSO's?

FoxChassis 04-22-2011 01:18 AM

Very simply, I did not know of that DSO (720009). I have updated that info.

GSPI 04-24-2011 10:10 PM

I had a question, in 1982 I'm seeing 400 consecutive VIN's and in my research of another car, I see that there were supposed to be 5 extra cars and 2 prototypes for 1982. I'm no expert but I'm trying to figure this whole SSP thing out. Were all 400+ SSP's in 1982 then CHP?

ImEvil1 04-24-2011 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSPI (Post 25390)
I had a question, in 1982 I'm seeing 400 consecutive VIN's and in my research of another car, I see that there were supposed to be 5 extra cars and 2 prototypes for 1982. I'm no expert but I'm trying to figure this whole SSP thing out. Were all 400+ SSP's in 1982 then CHP?

Negative. The 400 cars are all CHPs. As far as the "protoypes" are concerned, the one that "VintageRacer" has does NOT have a 6-digit DSO, and is NOT an SSP. The Marti Report shows it was a "police demo" (lots of cars are). I still have never seen any proof from him that it was a CHP car, an "EVOC" car, or the "first" of anything. He was given the opportunity to post that info here when he was still a member, but he did not do so.

As for the CHP Hatchback cars, well, there was a member here that had one, but we never saw a build sheet or assignment card documenting CHP service. I do remember an in-service pic of the car somewhere. That car did have a DSO. It was sold by the owner at one of the auction houses.

I'm not sure what the big deal about documentation is; I've posted up every build sheet and every other piece of documentation about these cars that I've ever found.

Hope this helps, Greg.

GSPI 04-24-2011 10:30 PM

I've seen the hatchback that's why I asked. I'm still new at this but it is cool to see all the documentation you can find on these cars!

ImEvil1 04-24-2011 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSPI (Post 25392)
I've seen the hatchback that's why I asked. I'm still new at this but it is cool to see all the documentation you can find on these cars!

No prob...we are all still learning. New info about these cars is discovered on a regular basis. Part of the fun. :)

ImEvil1 04-24-2011 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stadair (Post 25291)
I'm a little confused. Mine, 111908 has a DSO of 72 (San Jose). And it definetly was painted B&W. So why is it listed under without DSO's?

Toshi,

I missed your post, but it's a good question, since other people may have the same one.

Mick has been kind enough to not only run these for us, but now also post them. What I'm working on for us here is more of the same, but with a different twist. Any time we have a batch of VERIFIED cars (agency, service, etc) it will be linked to the specific VIN. As a example, for my '83 CSP car, you will see it in the list with the rest, but the VIN will be "clickable", and the link will take you to the supporting documentation for that unit.

Unverified cars won't have this feature, DSO number or not.

FoxChassis 04-25-2011 02:19 AM

What I have put up that you can click on now is probably just temporary, until Mike gets the page(s) done here. It's really just running on a PC I put together with spare parts, connected to a DMZ router, on my home network.

stadair 04-25-2011 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxChassis (Post 25296)
Very simply, I did not know of that DSO (720009). I have updated that info.

Ahh... Glad to be of help. :thumbsup:

Also, Thanks for putting your time into this list.

stadair 04-25-2011 09:39 PM

BTW, for 111908, I'm not sure if you want to list it as CHP just yet. I don't have any proof that it did anything with them but sit in their storage lot before being shipped off to some other type of department, state, federal or what have you. Yes, it was painted B&W, but its got gray over that, and now Reef Blue over that. And there are no holes for anything anywhere, as what I have seen so far.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:56 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.