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Chriswoodard 03-12-2011 12:27 AM

16" wheels on SSP car?
 
So in my quest for more history on my 1993 SSP car I contacted Ford and had them send me what they call a build sheet but it is basically just a listing of how the car was optioned during the build. I am confused b/c one of the specific options listed was "225/55ZR x 16" BSW All Season Tires". Could you order an SSP car with 16" pony sheels? I have never seen one. This car was one of the 30 cars that didn't go to Highway Patrol use in 1993.

1jerryl 03-12-2011 12:41 AM

I would say unless there is something specific referencing the Special Service option on that build sheet, it's probably a generic 5.0 liter LX build sheet and not specific to your car.......




Jerry
91 X-SCHP #2-12-311
90 X-NCSHP Caprice
77 Nova 9C1
83 Malibu 9C1 (Coming Soon)

ImEvil1 03-12-2011 02:02 AM

Those Ford 999s are notoriously inaccurate.

28HopUp 03-12-2011 07:45 AM

Weren't there some Nevada HP SSP's that ran 16" Pony wheels? They may have been retro-fitted by NHP though.

ImEvil1 03-12-2011 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 24178)
Weren't there some Nevada HP SSP's that ran 16" Pony wheels? They may have been retro-fitted by NHP though.

True...something about testing out different tires or something like that. Not factory equipped, though.

Chriswoodard 03-12-2011 06:16 PM

Thanks for the info, that is kinda what I thought.

One other thing I found interesting is that the sheet from Ford references the base AM/FM radio (which is what is in the car) and yet my door tag radio code is "7" which is AM/FM Cassette. I would bet the door tag is more accurate and the radio has been replaced at some point but who would go to the trouble to put that piece in there.

ImEvil1 03-12-2011 06:43 PM

Truly....the sheets from Ford aren't worth the time/trouble it takes to get them.

What year is your car?

MOstang 03-12-2011 06:58 PM

How long did it take to get yours and was it sent US Mail or E-mail to you? I placed a request over the Xmas holiday and they replied asking for my home address. Provided that information and was last I heard. After several weeks began sending emails every few days to inquire if they needed anything else and never received any reply. Finally gave up on it since the info wasn't particularly accurate on the SSPs anyway.

EXNODRAMANOTCH 03-12-2011 07:22 PM

I've gotten those 999 history reports on 7 out of 10 of the Fox chassis Mustangs that I have owned and only one of them was inaccurate. I just ordered one last week for my soon to be delivered 89 SSP and I'll post it's accuracy after I receive it.
Bob

ImEvil1 03-12-2011 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by EXNODRAMANOTCH (Post 24184)
I've gotten those 999 history reports on 7 out of 10 of the Fox chassis Mustangs that I have owned and only one of them was inaccurate. I just ordered one last week for my soon to be delivered 89 SSP and I'll post it's accuracy after I receive it.
Bob

We're talking SSPs...so you had one on a regular production car that had mistakes also?

EXNODRAMANOTCH 03-12-2011 08:42 PM

Yes, the only inaccurate one was for a 86 GT convert. The ones for my 86 UHP SSP and 86 CSP SSP were correct.

ImEvil1 03-12-2011 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by EXNODRAMANOTCH (Post 24188)
Yes, the only inaccurate one was for a 86 GT convert. The ones for my 86 UHP SSP and 86 CSP SSP were correct.

I'm glad you were able to get accurate results for those...most do not.

MOstang 03-12-2011 10:07 PM

Bob - Did you use an email to order or place a phone call? For whichever one you used can you post the address / #? Thank you.

EXNODRAMANOTCH 03-12-2011 10:43 PM

Mike, the phone number is 1-800-392-3673. Follow the prompts and when you finally get a human, ask for a 999 History report and give them the VIN and your address/phone info. They will have a researcher call you back within 48 hours to confirm that they will be mailing you the info.

Bob


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Originally Posted by MOstang (Post 24190)
Bob - Did you use an email to order or place a phone call? For whichever one you used can you post the address / #? Thank you.


MOstang 03-12-2011 10:59 PM

Thanks for posting up Bob.

fallon312 03-14-2011 01:59 AM

The Nevada Highway Patrol was approached by a tire company and told they could have free tires for their cars. At the time NHP was running 15 inch wheels. They (NHP) put 16 inch wheels and tires on the cars and they had numerous later mustangs run with the 16’s. My car has 16’s on it but I like many others here do not think these cars came from the factory with 16’s. It changed the entire appearance of my car for the better. IMO

stadair 03-15-2011 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by EXNODRAMANOTCH (Post 24191)
Mike, the phone number is 1-800-392-3673. Follow the prompts and when you finally get a human, ask for a 999 History report and give them the VIN and your address/phone info. They will have a researcher call you back within 48 hours to confirm that they will be mailing you the info.

Bob

Thanks Bob! I just gave them a call.

EXNODRAMANOTCH 03-15-2011 05:11 PM

Glad I could be of help.
Bob

stadair 03-17-2011 11:16 PM

Ford called back. Unfortunately they called the house and I was not home, even though they had my cell number. I should be receiving my build sheet in a few days!

EXNODRAMANOTCH 03-17-2011 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by stadair (Post 24255)
Ford called back. Unfortunately they called the house and I was not home, even though they had my cell number. I should be receiving my build sheet in a few days!

Great news, they told me 6 to 8 weeks for mine!

stadair 03-21-2011 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chriswoodard (Post 24173)
So in my quest for more history on my 1993 SSP car I contacted Ford and had them send me what they call a build sheet but it is basically just a listing of how the car was optioned during the build. I am confused b/c one of the specific options listed was "225/55ZR x 16" BSW All Season Tires". Could you order an SSP car with 16" pony sheels? I have never seen one. This car was one of the 30 cars that didn't go to Highway Patrol use in 1993.

Got my "Build Sheet" today for my '93 SSP, CHP. It's not at all what I expected. It showed the same, 225/55 R16 for the wheels. I'll scan it and post later for all to see.

stadair 03-21-2011 08:43 PM

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Here's the "Build Sheet" I received today. Like I said before, not quite what I expected. I was expecting something more 'form' like.

ImEvil1 03-21-2011 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ImEvil1 (Post 24181)
Truly....the sheets from Ford aren't worth the time/trouble it takes to get them.

What year is your car?

Thanks for posting yours up, Toshi. I've never bothered asking them for any of mine, since I've heard about experiences such as yours.

stadair 03-22-2011 08:22 AM

I learned nothing from it that I didn't already know. I HAD the phone number to call if I needed any other info, but my WIFE erased it off the answering machine. I would have called and asked what this piece of paper I received was?

MOstang 03-22-2011 12:09 PM

Just phoned in an order of building sheets for the 92 MSP and 93 MSHP SSPs. Like you I'm sure the results will be underwhelming, but it doesn't cost anything so what the heck! Per the rep on the phone 7-10 days before they arrive in the mail. Thanks again for posting the phone number, Bob. For anyone contemplating the phone number vs. the email address don't bother with the email.

Andy 03-23-2011 12:03 AM

I sent for one on a 1984 F150 that i did a Driver / Resto on
and it is printed on heavy stock paper suitable for display
said 5.0 Canyon Red paint yadie yadie yadie looked good
and was ALL correct except this one item...... and it's
the reason i have NOT displayed it with my documentation
it said the truck has cruse control AND it does not
AND as far as i can see/determine It never had cruse?
but the price was good............................FREE
http://i53.tinypic.com/165dz7.jpg

92NM-SSP 03-23-2011 01:24 AM

16 INCH WHEELS
 
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these 16 wheels came on my 92 NM SSP

ImEvil1 03-23-2011 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 92NM-SSP (Post 24323)
these 16 wheels came on my 92 NM SSP

From the agency, not the factory.

28HopUp 03-23-2011 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 92NM-SSP (Post 24323)
these 16 wheels came on my 92 NM SSP

Although you weren't soliciting opinions, I think those 16" 'snowflake' Turbo Coupe wheels would look great blacked out with the stock center caps. I have an extra set if you'd like to have a spare (I considered doing that myself).

GSPI 03-27-2011 12:52 PM

Interesting topic on the research information. I ran that VIN through my Ford fleet access site and came up with similar results as found on the top of what the researchers found:

World Manufacturer Identifier - 1st, 2nd, 3rd Positions
VIN Code: 1FA
Assembly Country: UNITED STATES
Make: Ford
Body Style: Sedan

Restraint System Type (Passenger Cars) or Brake Type and GVWR Class (Trucks and Vans) - 4th Position
VIN Code: C
Brake System: STANDARD
GVWR Class:

Line,Series Body Type - 5th, 6th, 7th Positions
VIN Code: P40
Vehicle Line: Mustang
Series: LX
Vehicle Type: Passenger Car

Engine Type - 8th Position
VIN Code: E
Engine: 5.0 L
Cylinders: 8
Fuel: Gasoline

Model Year - 10th Position
VIN Code: P
Model Year: 1993

Assembly Plant - 11th Position
VIN Code: F
Assembly Plant: DEARBORN, MICHIGAN

Production Sequence Number - 12th - 17th
VIN Code: 111908
Prod Sequence Number 111908

Additional Information
Wheel Axles Wheelbase 201.0 (which seems wrong to me as a wheelbase but not overall length)

Usually I've found that there is information out there on the sequences but it seems that the full build information is not released when you ask Ford for their research group to look at them.

NoDrama43 03-27-2011 12:58 PM

I wasted some time on a 999 report also. I did not have any luck as the paperwork they sent me was generic and NOT correct for my car.

The best way to confirm the info is either a build sheet, or window sticker, or emminger invoice for the 4 eyed cars.

buck tags, door tag with DSO, and agency records are good also.

MOstang 03-27-2011 01:33 PM

I was curious is the "999 report" supposed to be the same as the "build sheet" report from Ford. I've observed the "999 report" name in the past but the Ford rep I spoke with acted like I was speaking a foregin language when used that reference. She did understand "build sheet" request, though. Just something to keep in mind should someone place a call to the number listed above.

ImEvil1 03-27-2011 02:03 PM

They are one and the same.

NoDrama43 03-27-2011 02:46 PM

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I was referring to the build sheet that some of us ALWAYS find in our cars, under the seats, behind the panels, under the carpet etc.

ImEvil1 03-27-2011 04:54 PM

Jim,

Mike knew what you were referring to. Some people are calling the Ford 999s "build" sheets. Someone ought to file a lawsuit against them for wasting paper.

SOME people find real build sheets all the time; must be karma. :)

MOstang 03-28-2011 07:22 PM

Mine came in the mail today for the MSHP & MSP. Nothing earth shattering but hard to complain when they are free.

EXNODRAMANOTCH 03-28-2011 08:01 PM

I'm still waiting on mine!

stadair 03-28-2011 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOstang (Post 24436)
I was curious is the "999 report" supposed to be the same as the "build sheet" report from Ford. I've observed the "999 report" name in the past but the Ford rep I spoke with acted like I was speaking a foregin language when used that reference. She did understand "build sheet" request, though. Just something to keep in mind should someone place a call to the number listed above.

Mike, we must have spoken to the same woman! LOL. Build sheet my @$$.

EXNODRAMANOTCH 04-04-2011 04:44 PM

I received mine today. The only info that I did not already know was that it was built on 2/22/89 and has an "Immersion Engine Heater".

stadair 04-04-2011 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EXNODRAMANOTCH (Post 24551)
I received mine today. The only info that I did not already know was that it was built on 2/22/89 and has an "Immersion Engine Heater".

This is the MN car, right? That would make sense.


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