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NoDrama43 02-01-2011 09:44 AM

dueling flippers on EBAY
 
this is hilarious. Great to see them both for sale at the same time. Even better to see nobody is buying the hype.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...fCarsQ5fTrucks

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...fCarsQ5fTrucks


Frankly I think the word is out that there are plenty of these cars available and being circulated around the country, not to mention the cars that we see surface every month. The CHP car that didn't get flipped at auction last month is another good example that people are not going to give their right arm for one of these cars. Maybe prices will level off as the "hype" and interest levels off? Suits me fine actually. :)

28HopUp 02-01-2011 10:09 AM

Two cars that I have some respect for, but absolutely no interest in owning. That's ALOT of $$$ to spend on garage art that you cannot drive and enjoy. And the argument about them being an investment doesn't really work for me. I've rather invest my money in more traditional ways, and drive my cars. JMHO...

Unmrkd 02-01-2011 10:32 AM

The cars are nice but they are not on the scale of '29 V-12 Lincoln Limo or a Dusenburg or a '32 Packard or etc. etc. These are 90's era Mustang coupes.
Perhaps at some point in the future they will be valued at a higher level.

Look around, most of us that have an interest in these cars are working people with families and bills to pay. The level of "Disposable " income just isn't there in this economy. Just my 2 cents.

ImEvil1 02-01-2011 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Unmrkd (Post 23738)
The cars are nice but they are not on the scale of '29 V-12 Lincoln Limo or a Dusenburg or a '32 Packard or etc. etc. These are 90's era Mustang coupes.
Perhaps at some point in the future they will be valued at a higher level.

Look around, most of us that have an interest in these cars are working people with families and bills to pay. The level of "Disposable " income just isn't there in this economy. Just my 2 cents.

Well said.

Musical chairs with these two continues....It used to be that you would stay away from a car that had been owned by a jillion different people because if it were worth anything, and there was nothing wrong with it, it would be bought and kept. Now, some people seem to think they are dealing in the futures market, and the guy expecting any kind of ROI on a two-month ownership stint might find himself out of luck.

ssp91ssp 02-01-2011 12:08 PM

+1 Well said again!!!

2 Sweet cars that alot of us would like to own for the right price..
The economy/market will NOT allow that today! maybe some years down the road ?? It is very odd to see the one ssp back on the market after only 2mths
just my 2cents worth.:thumbsdown:

stadair 02-01-2011 12:54 PM

I know a guy who's trying to sell his '93 Cobra for around that price. You gotta be crazy to pay that much!

mac88chp 02-01-2011 01:45 PM

These two vehicles are interesting artifacts and are valuable as great benchmarks for how this breed was built but the real value for most emergency vehicle collectors is by far in the provenance of a car. Vehicles with documented in-service histories will always be much more desirable to own in this segment of the car hobby. It's obvious that the mainstream collectors that have dabbled here with this pair just don't "get it."

NoDrama43 02-01-2011 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac88chp (Post 23746)
It's obvious that the mainstream collectors that have dabbled here with this pair just don't "get it."

Mike I agree with everything except the portraying of the previous owners of these cars as "mainstream collectors". In the case of the 800mile car it was safely stored from new with an actual collector along with his two 2000 Cobra R cars, and several other collectible mustangs, including a 66 Shelby GT 350 he bought brand new. He also sold his 65 GT350 "R" car for 225k a couple of years ago. He tried to sell me the 800 mile SSP car numerous times but I was just never ready to part with his asking price of 20k. He always said he hoped the car would go to an enthusiast that would appreciate the car as he had.

Unfortunatly this car, along with the 7k mile car have both been subjected to being flipped back and forth amongst individuals simply trying to gouge the next guy in line. None of them are true collectors, as "collectors" don't buy and sell EVERY car they own within 6 months of buying it. There are several members here I would consider "collectors" but I wouldn't dare lump any of the owners of these two "never in service cars" with that same group.

I am not trying to say that myself or anyone else is offended by your characterization of these owners, just throwing it out there as my perspective on the lunacy that has continually surrounded these cars.

mac88chp 02-01-2011 07:34 PM

Yeah, with more info now I guess I can go with "mainstream flippers" to characterize these current players. :yes:

MOstang 02-01-2011 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac88chp (Post 23746)
These two vehicles are interesting artifacts and are valuable as great benchmarks for how this breed was built but the real value for most emergency vehicle collectors is by far in the provenance of a car. Vehicles with documented in-service histories will always be much more desirable to own in this segment of the car hobby."

I agree...while interesting cars, if I'm going to buy an SSP, I'm going to buy one that was in-service. Like you mentioned, the history on that kind of SSP is just way more compelling and interesting to me. :Nodrama:

NoDrama43 02-01-2011 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac88chp (Post 23752)
Yeah, with more info now I guess I can go with "mainstream flippers" to characterize these current players. :yes:

now that I can agree with . :)

FHP813 02-01-2011 09:29 PM

If I hit the Lotto, I would buy both, donate them to the FHP... then when they retired them I would have the only 2 "never in service then donated then retired" SSP Mustangs. Hows that for service history! :clapping:

stadair 02-01-2011 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOstang (Post 23753)
I agree...while interesting cars, if I'm going to buy an SSP, I'm going to buy one that was in-service. Like you mentioned, the history on that kind of SSP is just way more compelling and interesting to me. :Nodrama:

Yes. What's exciting about an SSP car that hasn't seen action? Totally in agreement with you Mike.

TR1 02-03-2011 01:24 PM

I know I have said it before but I would just end up driving it if I ever bought a car like that.

dsblk93gt 02-03-2011 03:11 PM

Both awesome cars. It seems alot of the "collectors" like to only keep cars for 6 months to a year then sell and change up to something else. I know the guy I sold my 39k mile 88 GT does the same thing. He had that for less than a year then found a 12k mile black/black 93 LX coupe for sale he wanted more. BUT he drives the cars so it's a little different.

I'd love to have the $$ to just buy a car and look at it, but that's what my diecast cars are for...

Andy 02-03-2011 04:57 PM

http://i56.tinypic.com/15xmjh2.jpg

NoDrama43 02-03-2011 10:33 PM

now THAT right there is way funny Andrew. Throw in some yaller chalk and a Schlitz and we got ourselves a party !!


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