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calimustang 11-09-2010 11:47 PM

Ocala FL SSP?
 
Anyone familiar with this? i saw the 89 i'm getting has bucktag that's barely viewable that says "cala" so i believe it stands for "Ocala"...

ImEvil1 11-10-2010 12:17 AM

MJ,

Really no way that your car, which was registered in Gainesville with 10 miles on it, would have been an Ocala PD car (or Marion County SO, either).

You might try to get a copy of the original title to see who registered it. It almost looks like it wasn't in-service.

calimustang 11-10-2010 01:59 AM

i could do that once it's titled on my name. I found it has 4 strobes on front corner lens and tail lights... also i updated new pictures, kill switch and everything, you can look at it.. its on the end of first page and 2nd page. top of first page is old via camera phone, it was taken on nov 9th by digital camera, much better quality.

www.fotki.com/calimustang/1989-ssp/

it finally registered in 1998..

05/09/1998 99,282 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Punta Gorda, FL
Title #47697247 Odometer reading reported

which means it was retired, look at the mileage, where was it from 1989-98?

This car has a VERY strange history.

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Originally Posted by ImEvil1 (Post 22638)
MJ,

Really no way that your car, which was registered in Gainesville with 10 miles on it, would have been an Ocala PD car (or Marion County SO, either).

You might try to get a copy of the original title to see who registered it. It almost looks like it wasn't in-service.


ABN2060 11-10-2010 11:24 AM

Great find. Where exactly did you find it because I thought I scoured all of North Florida for Coupes already...:)

It looks like a basket case in the engine compartment but definately looks salvagable.

calimustang 11-10-2010 11:31 AM

HA HA! it is restoration-able. I found it in Orlando, in a very bad bad area but that dude who has it, buys and sell foxes with some fix up's for very good deals... he's a old school dude who specializes in fox mustangs and collects a lot of fox parts to fix whatever he have in stock.

the motor in car will be ditched and i have a fresh rebuilt 5.0 motor to drop in, it was from a rear ended convertible so the motor is tight and good shape but needs some clean up to look good. you could see the pics of the good motor.

ImEvil1 11-10-2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by calimustang (Post 22639)
i could do that once it's titled on my name. I found it has 4 strobes on front corner lens and tail lights... also i updated new pictures, kill switch and everything, you can look at it.. its on the end of first page and 2nd page. top of first page is old via camera phone, it was taken on nov 9th by digital camera, much better quality.

www.fotki.com/calimustang/1989-ssp/

it finally registered in 1998..

05/09/1998 99,282 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Punta Gorda, FL
Title #47697247 Odometer reading reported

which means it was retired, look at the mileage, where was it from 1989-98?

This car has a VERY strange history.

MJ,

I'm glad you brought this up, because it might help others as well.

Here is a Carfax from an actual Gainesville PD car...

ImEvil1 11-10-2010 04:22 PM

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Here is mine, from the '93 coupe I bought new and is sitting in my garage:

ImEvil1 11-10-2010 04:24 PM

There are no other entries for my '93...so just because there are gaps, doesn't mean it was "retired". There isn't emissions testing in that area, and the only other way there'd be entries is if the car was sold.

Also, the GPD Carfax clearly shows registration as a LE vehicle.

calimustang 11-11-2010 04:34 AM

Mike,

you made good points there, as far as i recall on my old 91 Davie, FL SSP #142 didn't have carfax show it being registered as LE vehicle, kind of similiar to the one i have shown now... So carfax isn't 100% accurate..

Like this for example.. i once owned an 2008 Mustang GT and got hit by a flea sized brain deer in SC state and costing over 4.5K to repair and it shows on carfax as electricial work that's worth 4,500.

That made me realize that carfax isn't always accurate..... so i swore to myself not ever buy a used car that's for daily driver car unless it is brand new but SSP/B4C/P71/9C1 are different because they never can be Daily Driver car unless i know where to look and watch out for or restore them then I'd not be worried at that point.

Guess I'll have to contact DMV for its ownership history like you advised a while ago.

calimustang 11-11-2010 04:41 AM

Mike,

one more thing, do you know what a Gainesville PD car are equipped with? Did they come with kill switch on center console like FHP SSP did? That part bothered me the most.

predator20 11-11-2010 11:47 AM

You may want to also run an Autocheck report. I had a carfax on an old car of mine that had one accident listed. Ran an autocheck, one or two more accidents came up. I think there was also additional registration entries too. So the autocheck may fill in some of the gaps.

ImEvil1 11-11-2010 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by calimustang (Post 22655)
Mike,

you made good points there, as far as i recall on my old 91 Davie, FL SSP #142 didn't have carfax show it being registered as LE vehicle, kind of similiar to the one i have shown now... So carfax isn't 100% accurate..

Guess I'll have to contact DMV for its ownership history like you advised a while ago.

I agree....it's not always 100% accurate with crash info, but I've never seen a title/registration error. The car was registered in Gainesville.

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Originally Posted by calimustang (Post 22656)
Mike,

one more thing, do you know what a Gainesville PD car are equipped with? Did they come with kill switch on center console like FHP SSP did? That part bothered me the most.

Yes, I do. I drove one in service, and I worked for that department for about 12 years.

Like I already told you, it is NOT a Gainesville PD car.

There is a possibility that it was an unmarked with the Alachua Co Sheriff's office, but it's a slim one.

calimustang 11-11-2010 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ImEvil1 (Post 22661)
I agree....it's not always 100% accurate with crash info, but I've never seen a title/registration error. The car was registered in Gainesville.



Yes, I do. I drove one in service, and I worked for that department for about 12 years. Like I already told you, it is NOT a Gainesville PD car.

thanks for closing the gap. :) I had no idea you used to live in Florida.. So you aren't familiar with this SSP at all? Such as seeing unmarked SSP in the area of Marion co between Gainesville to Ocala etc? I know a guy who lives there said that SSP is familiar and he recall one that patrols around was dark blue.. he's a mechanic at school bus garage in that area. Also a black SSP that goes to dragway to race back then.

Thanks for the autocheck, predator20.

Edit: Alachua Co Sheriff is possible, I've wondered about it.

ImEvil1 11-11-2010 12:26 PM

No. The Sheriff's office bought several marked and unmarked ones, but I don't remember a blue one. The last one that they sold that Riley's buddy Mark got had been sitting back there for awhile after they moved into their new building and was missing a few parts. I didn't even know they had it (it was grey), so it's possible they had a few others that were admin-type cars. Mark W. supposedly knows the fleet guy up there, who helped him with the '91 Crown Vic resto (which is probably missing a lightbar), so you might try asking them.

Looking at your Carfax again, though, it looks like it was involved in a crash before it was even titled.

calimustang 11-11-2010 12:26 PM

Autocheck i just purchased....

04/12/1989 FL
Independent Source VEHICLE MANUFACTURED AND SHIPPED TO DEALER

05/10/1989 FL
State Agency REAR IMPACT WITH ANOTHER VEHICLE (Case #:109703660)

11/08/1989 FL
State Agency FRONT IMPACT WITH ANOTHER VEHICLE (Case #:109708156)

05/09/1998 FL
99,282
Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV

05/22/1998 PUNTA GORDA, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:47697247)
POLICE USE

06/30/1998 PUNTA GORDA, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

07/06/1998 PUNTA GORDA, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:47697247)
POLICE USE

01/15/1999 PUNTA GORDA, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

06/11/1999 PUNTA GORDA, FL
101,369
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:47697247)

06/11/1999 PUNTA GORDA, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0047697247)

06/11/1999 PUNTA GORDA, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

06/11/1999 PUNTA GORDA, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. POLICE USE

01/10/2000 PUNTA GORDA, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
POLICE USE

12/28/2000 PUNTA GORDA, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

01/14/2002 PUNTA GORDA, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

01/03/2003 PORT CHARLOTTE, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
POLICE USE

12/31/2003 PORT CHARLOTTE, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
POLICE USE

01/20/2005 PORT CHARLOTTE, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
POLICE USE

12/30/2005 PORT CHARLOTTE, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0047697247)

12/30/2005 PORT CHARLOTTE, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

12/30/2005 PORT CHARLOTTE, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. POLICE USE
EXCLUDED/EXEMPT

11/21/2008 PORT CHARLOTTE, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
POLICE USE
EXCLUDED/EXEMPT

06/26/2009 CLERMONT, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0047697247)

06/26/2009 CLERMONT, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

06/26/2009 CLERMONT, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. POLICE USE
EXCLUDED/EXEMPT

calimustang 11-11-2010 12:48 PM

Here's my old Davie, FL SSP #142 which is sad because i was told it's now a track car... carfax didn't say police at the beginning but autocheck does... lengthy history.. jeez!

Vehicle: 1991 Ford Mustang LX (1FACP40E8MF151902)
Event Date Event Location Odometer Reading Data Source Event Detail

03/14/1991 FL
Independent Source VEHICLE MANUFACTURED AND SHIPPED TO DEALER

03/26/1991 FL
232
Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV

05/01/1991 FORT LAUDERDALE, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

05/01/1991 FORT LAUDERDALE, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. POLICE USE

05/22/1991 FORT LAUDERDALE, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0061438477)
POLICE USE

04/25/1993 FL
State Agency FRONT IMPACT WITH ANOTHER VEHICLE (Case #:302640120)

01/10/1995 FL
41,000
State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION

12/15/1995 FL
State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION

12/18/1996 FL
59,000
State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION

09/17/1997 FL
State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION

01/25/2000 FL
76,000
State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION

09/08/2003 SEBASTIAN, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0061438477)
POLICE USE
EXCLUDED/EXEMPT

09/19/2003 SEBASTIAN, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
POLICE USE
EXCLUDED/EXEMPT

09/13/2004 FELLSMERE, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0061438477)

09/13/2004 FELLSMERE, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

09/13/2004 FELLSMERE, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. POLICE USE
EXCLUDED/EXEMPT

12/13/2004 APOPKA, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0061438477)

12/13/2004 APOPKA, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

12/13/2004 APOPKA, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. POLICE USE
EXCLUDED/EXEMPT

09/30/2005 MOUNT DORA, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
POLICE USE
EXCLUDED/EXEMPT

08/11/2006 DELTONA, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0061438477)
POLICE USE
EXCLUDED/EXEMPT

02/05/2007 GREEN COVE SPRINGS, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0061438477)

02/05/2007 GREEN COVE SPRINGS, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

02/05/2007 GREEN COVE SPRINGS, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. POLICE USE
EXCLUDED/EXEMPT

04/03/2007 JACKSONVILLE, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0061438477)

04/03/2007 JACKSONVILLE, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

04/03/2007 JACKSONVILLE, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. POLICE USE
EXCLUDED/EXEMPT

06/02/2008 JACKSONVILLE, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
POLICE USE
EXCLUDED/EXEMPT

06/01/2009 JACKSONVILLE, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
POLICE USE
EXCLUDED/EXEMPT

05/26/2010 JACKSONVILLE, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
POLICE USE
EXCLUDED/EXEMPT


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