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1988Bullitt 09-08-2011 11:18 AM

Same drill as the rest of the body, soda blasted the hood, etch primed and 2k primed. There is a dent I need to take care of in the driver’s side front corner, but this dent is one more thing that actually helped me identify the car, long story I hope to share one day.

Now that all of the body panels are repaired, blasted primed, and have had an initial blocking I will be spraying all of them with the new Spies very high build polyester so I can get the entire body as straight and smooth as possible. My paint supplier has been talking this stuff like crazy so I figured I would give it a try. It’s essentially like skim coating the whole car, the technical manual shows you can build the coating up to 100mils. I don’t need anything that crazy but I do need to clean up what the previous painter did to my metal shell when it was prepped last time.

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...dhoodmetal.jpg

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...primedhood.jpg

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...Primedhood.jpg

28HopUp 09-08-2011 11:21 AM

Very cool Aaron! As a side note, it looks like you need to bring up the water level in your pool. :)

1988Bullitt 09-08-2011 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 29353)
Very cool Aaron! As a side note, it looks like you need to bring up the water level in your pool. :)

Lol, I just noticed that in the picture, I think that's actually just an optical illusion made by the white ring around the top. The water level is actually in the middle of the skimmer.

mac88chp 09-08-2011 01:13 PM

Great stuff! It's certainly gratifying to see one fallen SSP donating to the resurrection of another. :cool:

1988Bullitt 10-31-2011 01:59 PM

I primed the car, blocked the whole car the first time to find the low and high spots, fixed all those spots and now the car has been primed again.

I spent an entire weekend getting this hood perfect. I think this was round 2, by round 3 it came out perfect.

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...ockinghood.jpg

2nd blocking with Spies high build spray polyester and a few spots of filler.

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...blockingRH.jpg

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...blockingLH.jpg

Floor boards are repaired and painted Ecoat gray. Next is the engine bay.

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...andprepped.jpg

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...floorpans1.jpg

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...floorpans2.jpg

28HopUp 10-31-2011 02:54 PM

Thanks for posting up more pictures, Aaron. The underside of your car looks soooooo nice!

:2thumbs:

GSPI 10-31-2011 03:44 PM

Very nice! I think you mentioned it but is that "e-coat" gray some form of a POR15? That is looking great!

1988Bullitt 11-01-2011 11:31 AM

The rear section of the car is POR15'ed Gray in color, the front section of the floor boards are DuPont base/clear that I color matched to the original e-coat gray. From the pictures its hard to tell but there is a slight shade difference. I chose to use the POR15 for the rear because I sanded blasted everything back there and wanted to make sure no corrosion would ever come back. The floor boards were about perfect so they just needed regular sanding and prep.

The POR15 gray is very close to the factory ecoat color, and it fades with UV light which makes it even closer and even gives it the hint of gray/green you see in Ford's ecoat. Due to the contour of the underbody it is really hard to pick up where the divide between the POR15 and Paint is. Once everything is repainted and installed, I don’t think anyone will ever be able to tell.

Rhino 11-01-2011 08:14 PM

Wow! Aaron, I am truly amazed at what you can do. :)

1988Bullitt 01-31-2012 11:59 AM

Sport Seats
 
This was the first SSP I had ever seen with Sports Seats, because of that I had asked a while back if anyone else had seen one with sport seats. My certification label shows I should have them “DA” but everything I have ever seen has been the base cloth. Some people thought they may have been swapped in by a previous owner. Well I am glad to say with 100% certainty, the sport seats that are in my car are correct!

Here is the interior pic from the article Eric Prince has posted on his Fotki album
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d.../KSSSPs-vi.jpg

Here is the same picture in HD, lol. This clearly shows the sport seat, not the base cloth.
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...l/Interior.jpg

MOstang 01-31-2012 12:32 PM

Good detective work :2thumbs:.

ImEvil1 01-31-2012 05:52 PM

Just be careful drawing that conclusion. I haven't read the rest of the article, but I don't see how the one "prototype" (test) vehicle that they were discussing correlates to a later order of X number of cars.

I think I mentioned this to you before, but our city ordered three 1992 SSPs and they were all marked with the same interior code as yours, but came with the correct, low-back seats. The build sheet for one of them is posted on this website (the one I drove in-service and later bought at auction).

FoxChassis 01-31-2012 09:30 PM

The "Articulated Sport" cloth seating (code D) became standard in the P40E (LX 5.0L coupe) starting with the '91 model year. For the non-A/S cloth seating (code F in '91/'92 or G in '93) to be installed instead I think there would have to have been comments on the build sheet, or some other document that the assembly line folks would have used to install the correct seats for that order.

I have not yet seen a '91 SSP door tag with trim code D.

I have seen a few '92 SSPs with trim code D on the door tag but none of the buck tags from the same car have a clear shot of the trim code, so I can't compare the two to see if they're the same or different. The ones that I have seen with trim code D are 131914, 131920, 148008, and 170585.

Every '93 SSP door tag that I have seen has trim code D.
Every '93 SSP buck tag that I have seen has trim code G.

ImEvil1 01-31-2012 10:33 PM

Good point, Mick. I hadn't even thought about comparing the two. Check out the buildsheet I found in the '92 I drove.

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/images/92SSP1.gif


It also lists D as the trim code, though. I'm looking through old pics to see if I have a clear one of the bucktags.

Aaron, I know you posted the tags earlier in the thread, but do you have a better pic of them?

FoxChassis 01-31-2012 11:32 PM

That's an interesting build sheet. Wonder when the change-over was to that type.

I do see the DA trim code on that one. Don't see any comments at the bottom about installing any different interior trim. Wonder if the buck tag was stamped FA.

The trim code on the buck tag is at the beginning of the fourth line. Aaron's tag is damaged right there. Might be able to see the stamping from the back side.

ImEvil1 01-31-2012 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxChassis (Post 32522)
That's an interesting build sheet. Wonder when the change-over was to that type.

I do see the DA trim code on that one. Don't see any comments at the bottom about installing any different interior trim. Wonder if the buck tag was stamped FA.

The trim code on the buck tag is at the beginning of the fourth line. Aaron's tag is damaged right there. Might be able to see the stamping from the back side.

Yeah, I noticed that too. I can't find a decent pic of the tag for the other car. Everything I have is blurry.

Only seen those sheets for '92 and '93 cars. Normal builds with all of the info printed like that on the back (blank) side.

FoxChassis 02-01-2012 12:15 AM

Didn't realize until now that that stuff was printed on the back side of the 'traditional' build sheet. Looks like it's all of the major equipment.

1988Bullitt 02-01-2012 12:35 AM

I am not basing my information off this article, in fact there are a couple things in this article that are wrong. It also depends how you read “three other prototype cars” it should read three types of cars are being tested not 3 cars. There were 7 mustangs on DSO 53-0149. My understanding is there was 7 Camaro’s and SHO’s put into service for testing at the same time.

I have other information and pictures that prove that my car had sport seats. If you look closely at some of the other pictures of the other 6 two tone KHP cars in service you can see they have sport seats. Another fun fact, the car pictured in this article is actually my car, plate #64 driven by Greg Kyser.

I need to get some sleep but I will post some info tomorrow.

1988Bullitt 02-01-2012 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImEvil1 (Post 32519)
Good point, Mick. I hadn't even thought about comparing the two. Check out the buildsheet I found in the '92 I drove.

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/images/92SSP1.gif


It also lists D as the trim code, though. I'm looking through old pics to see if I have a clear one of the bucktags.

Aaron, I know you posted the tags earlier in the thread, but do you have a better pic of them?

This is the best shot I have on my work computer, it's a DA, I will get a shot from the backside since there is a bend in the tag.

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...trol/Buck2.jpg

1988Bullitt 02-01-2012 09:15 AM

John (xxtrpr) found this article from the Wichita eagle, it talks about getting 7 Mustangs, 7 Camaros, and 7 SHOs.

Quote:

Wichita Eagle, The (KS)
1992-01-04
Section: MAIN NEWS
Edition: CITY EDITION
Page: 1A


SPEEDERS LOSE EARLY WARNING ROOFTOP LIGHTS MOVE INSIDE PATROL CARS
Mike Berry/Eagle Western Kansas bureau


Speeders, beware. It's about to become a little more difficult to get away with your lead-footed driving habits.
Those distinctive, visible-at-a-mile-and-a-half "cherries" are coming off the top of some Kansas Highway Patrol cars and are being moved to the dashboards. And once that distinctive patrol car silhouette is gone, it will be harder for speeders to spot troopers.
Trooper Craig Davis, who has been driving a so-called slick-top patrol car for about a month, said he already can note a difference.
''I'm getting better speeds now," said Davis, who is based in Garden City. "I'm clocking more at 80 and 90 miles an hour now," he said, explaining that serious speeders aren't able to spot him at a long distance and hit the brakes before he can get their speed locked on radar.
And some speeders rush right up behind his car before they realize they're overtaking a patrol car, Davis said.
Davis drives one of seven "slick-top" cars in the Garden City patrol division that had their top lights removed and the new dashboard flashers installed around Thanksgiving.
The conversion of those cars was financed by a federal truck highway safety enforcement program, said Capt. Dave Jones, division commander. He said the troopers have been surprising quite a few people.
Statewide, the patrol will get 22 new cars in a couple of months, and it will be up to individual troopers and their commanders whether a car is outfitted with the traditional rooftop light or a dashboard-mounted flashing light. The cars will continue to wear their regulation blue and gray paint jobs with the gold Highway Patrol shield on the front doors.
''Our goal is not necessarily to write more speeding tickets, but to reduce the amount of speeding," said Sgt. Terry Maple, the patrol's spokesman in Topeka.
The patrol hopes that heavy-footed drivers will slow down once word gets out that they can't count on spotting a patrol car before it spots them, Maple said.
Jones said the dashboard-mounted lights also are cheaper to buy and easier to install and are expected to increase the patrol cars' gas mileage and top speed. The dashboard mounts have reflectors that keep the lights out of the driver's eyes.
Patrol officials will study the effectiveness of slick-top patrol cars during the next year or so before deciding whether to make a permanent switch. A few patrol cars on the Kansas Turnpike have operated without rooftop lights for several years, Maple said, but the patrol wants more data before it makes a decision.
Jones and Maple both said safety will be the key element in making that decision. Some are concerned that motorists may have a harder time spotting a stopped patrol vehicle without the top light, although the cars still will be equipped with amber warning lights in the rear windows.
No matter what happens with the light question, the silhouettes of some of the patrol cars will be changing. Seven new Camaros, seven Mustangs and seven Ford Tauruses are expected to join the lineup this year as the patrol experiments with smaller, less costly, more fuel-efficient cars. Each patrol division will get a set of the three new models for tryouts, Jones said.
The patrol has been using full-sized Ford and Plymouth models.

ImEvil1 02-01-2012 11:45 AM

Thanks for posting the pic. Unfortunately, I don't have any clear pics of the two '92s to see what's stamped on them (D or F). You can see by the build sheet above, though, that's it's marked D, but the cars definitely came with the regular, 4 cylinder LX seats.

BTW, Ford produced an SSP Taurus in '92, so that's probably what the article is referring to, and not an SHO (unless you have something else about it that you didn't post).

Glad you were able to identify your unit number.

1988Bullitt 02-01-2012 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImEvil1 (Post 32534)
Thanks for posting the pic. Unfortunately, I don't have any clear pics of the two '92s to see what's stamped on them (D or F). You can see by the build sheet above, though, that's it's marked D, but the cars definitely came with the regular, 4 cylinder LX seats.

BTW, Ford produced an SSP Taurus in '92, so that's probably what the article is referring to, and not an SHO (unless you have something else about it that you didn't post).

Glad you were able to identify your unit number.

I meant SSP not SHO, sorry. I really don't see what the disagreement is about here, every picture I have seen and posted of the 7 two-tone Kansas SSPs have sport seats in them. I don't even have to go by the certification label or the buck tags (even though they show sport seats) because I have in-service pictures of MY car and others with these seats.

I understand your car was equipped differently, but possibly labeled the same as mine. However your cars were not Kansas cars and they were not on the same order. You also have to factor in that Ford may have put the wrong seats in cars or full orders of cars occasionally. Parts shortages, miscommunication, and human error does happen in plants. Or it may all be 100% correct, and that’s how everything was ordered.

All I am trying to do here is share information. I know you are trying to be a fact checker and I am fine with that but pictures don’t lie. The article had been posted a long time ago and I figured most had read it and seen the pictures so I figured it would be neat to see a clearer picture of the interior which also happened to show a clear shot of the seats. Since that was not enough, here is another “never before seen” picture of my car in service:

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...trol/Deer2.jpg

gixxer1 02-01-2012 04:42 PM

All the Kansas mustangs in 92 had sport seats. I also have a 92 Khp and have spoken to a few Khp troopers and they all confirmed the same thing. I have numerous pics of these cars showing the seats clearly. This car still belongs to a Khp trooper that i can not name. He put his tag on for the pic which i blacked out.

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b..._01/khp007.jpg

gixxer1 02-01-2012 04:50 PM

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...hp004-Copy.jpg

gixxer1 02-01-2012 04:54 PM

I wish i had more than 5 minutes to edit.......

28HopUp 02-01-2012 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gixxer1 (Post 32545)
I wish i had more than 5 minutes to edit.......

I gotcha fixed up! :D

gixxer1 02-01-2012 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 32546)
I gotcha fixed up! :D

Thank you buddy!:2thumbs:

chp1982 02-01-2012 05:31 PM

Nice in-service photos. With how much seat time these cars got, it's a little suprising to me that more of the 91-93 SSP's were not equipped with the more supportive sport seats.

gixxer1 02-01-2012 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chp1982 (Post 32550)
Nice in-service photos. With how much seat time these cars got, it's a little suprising to me that more of the 91-93 SSP's were not equipped with the more supportive sport seats.

I assume like every thing else it was all about the lowest bid/cost.

ImEvil1 02-01-2012 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1988Bullitt (Post 32540)
I meant SSP not SHO, sorry. I really don't see what the disagreement is about here, every picture I have seen and posted of the 7 two-tone Kansas SSPs have sport seats in them. I don't even have to go by the certification label or the buck tags (even though they show sport seats) because I have in-service pictures of MY car and others with these seats.

I understand your car was equipped differently, but possibly labeled the same as mine. However your cars were not Kansas cars and they were not on the same order. You also have to factor in that Ford may have put the wrong seats in cars or full orders of cars occasionally. Parts shortages, miscommunication, and human error does happen in plants. Or it may all be 100% correct, and that’s how everything was ordered.

All I am trying to do here is share information. I know you are trying to be a fact checker and I am fine with that but pictures don’t lie. The article had been posted a long time ago and I figured most had read it and seen the pictures so I figured it would be neat to see a clearer picture of the interior which also happened to show a clear shot of the seats. Since that was not enough, here is another “never before seen” picture of my car in service:

Aaron,

There is no disagreement on my end....just a sharing of information (just like you mentioned). We are constantly learning more (and sometimes new) information about these cars and it's important to put that information out to everyone.

If you are upset with what we've talked about, shoot me a PM. I can tell you that I have no idea what pictures you have or haven't seen, but we strive to document these cars here as much as possible. I don't have a stack of "never before seen" photos sitting on my desk, either. I post what I come across, just like others do, for the betterment of everyone.

:)

MOstang 02-01-2012 09:46 PM

Pretty neat info on these SSPs. I really like the KSP SSPs!

1988Bullitt 02-02-2012 09:27 AM

Thanks Mike!

1988Bullitt 02-02-2012 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImEvil1 (Post 32552)
Aaron,

There is no disagreement on my end....just a sharing of information (just like you mentioned). We are constantly learning more (and sometimes new) information about these cars and it's important to put that information out to everyone.

If you are upset with what we've talked about, shoot me a PM. I can tell you that I have no idea what pictures you have or haven't seen, but we strive to document these cars here as much as possible. I don't have a stack of "never before seen" photos sitting on my desk, either. I post what I come across, just like others do, for the betterment of everyone.

:)

I misread your tone, my bad. I am trying to post as much stuff as I can, just like I did with my AL car, every bit of info I received on my trip I posted. KHP has been a little different, and I am hoping once I meet some of the Troopers in person things will change. I am not one to hold back on information especially when it’s for the greater good of the hobby, but I also honor others requests if they say they don’t want it shared. :)

1988Bullitt 02-02-2012 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gixxer1 (Post 32542)
All the Kansas mustangs in 92 had sport seats. I also have a 92 Khp and have spoken to a few Khp troopers and they all confirmed the same thing. I have numerous pics of these cars showing the seats clearly. This car still belongs to a Khp trooper that i can not name. He put his tag on for the pic which i blacked out.

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b..._01/khp007.jpg

Looks like he had a similar repaint to mine, quality clearcoat......

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...atrol/KHP8.jpg

1988Bullitt 02-02-2012 10:06 AM

Something else kinda cool about the picture below, the only panel on my car that was not original with a VIN sticker was the left front fender. As we were soda blasting the car we found a decent size chunk of filler / bondo in the hood covering the dent, at the time I had not seen the pictures so I just though a baseball or something landed on it at some time. Well when you look at the dents (in-service) vs after soda blasting it looks identical, and it explains why my LF fender was replaced. The LF corner of the hood had also been bent back out and the sealer was chipped off from the body guys flexing it.

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...trol/Deer2.jpg

Easier to see on primed metal.

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...primedhood.jpg

1988Bullitt 02-04-2012 12:14 PM

Engine bay painted!
 
Took the day off yesterday to get some paint work done. I really like this shade of blue :thumbs_up

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...dandsanded.jpg


http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...l/painted1.jpg

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...l/painted2.jpg

ImEvil1 02-04-2012 12:19 PM

I like it, too.....nice color.

28HopUp 02-04-2012 12:20 PM

I agree, Aaron. That blue looks great! Your SSP is going to be so nice when it's done.

ChrisL 02-04-2012 12:46 PM

WOW! That looks incredible! Can't wait to see this one come together!

FHP813 02-04-2012 08:26 PM

I like it! That blue is nice.


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