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ImEvil1 10-09-2011 01:08 AM

Great find on the buildsheet.

Looks like your Dad really hooked you up on the CHP equipment, too. It has taken us years to find some of that stuff.

28HopUp 10-09-2011 08:28 AM

Nice score on the build sheet! :thumbsup:

Mustang Kid 10-09-2011 12:04 PM

Thanks guys:)
It has taken my dad years to find equipment too, and he has 4 more CHP mustangs along with over 20 other CHP cars to find equipment for. My dad basically has a complete equipment set for one or 2 cars(I don't know exactly, he may have more special stuff). We will have to have one car all equiped, then when another car is to go to a show(once restored), we will just swap all the main equipment in (wires will already be run). That is how we will deal with the equipment shortage:thumbsup:

GSPI 10-09-2011 12:08 PM

Sam,

Looks like your birthday celebration is continuing into another month!!:D

Mustang Kid 10-09-2011 12:11 PM

Everyday feels like my birthday when I am working on 8337 and invisioning what it will be like driving it down to Ripon next year:D
I cant wait

Mustang Kid 10-09-2011 12:31 PM

More progress pics from yesterday.
Opening up the spot light hole.
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/P1010455.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/P1010459.jpg

I just set a Caprice spot through the hole to see what my car would look like with one.
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/P1010460.jpg

No rust.
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/P1010419.jpg

Swapping out the carb.
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/P1010424.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/P1010427.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/P1010437.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/P1010453.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/P1010454.jpg

Taking out the after market radio took 1 or 2 hours, it would just not come out. But it was worth it:) I need to find out how it was mounted.
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/P1010457.jpg

The only speaker in the dash. It is Ford, and wasnt hooked up to the aftermarket radio.
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/P1010458.jpg

mac88chp 10-09-2011 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustang Kid (Post 30194)

Sam, do the numbers written by the CHP on the outside of the case correlate to anything on the manufacturers serial number tag on the unit?

mac88chp 10-09-2011 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustang Kid (Post 30167)
Some of the stuff I found in the trunk of my dads wrecked 92. He has more better stuff he had taken out a long time ago too.
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_3127-1.jpg

They still spray:) Deffinately not for show duty;)
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_3128-1.jpg

Some of this got on my finger and when I wiped it off, my finger was spotless:D
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_3129-1.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_3130-1.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_3132-1.jpg

Great artifact find! :thumbsup:

The spray paint cans and hand cleaner appear to be locally purchased supplies.

Sam, does the smaller plastic bottle look like it could be a rubbing alcohol bottle? Also, can you type out all the markings that appear on the larger bottle?

If it's still intact, I'd use the base of the trunk box to build up a new one on.

chp1982 10-09-2011 06:56 PM

What a present! Glad you got it. Keep the progress pics coming.

Mustang Kid 10-09-2011 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac88chp (Post 30234)
Great artifact find! :thumbsup:

The spray paint cans and hand cleaner appear to be locally purchased supplies.

Sam, does the smaller plastic bottle look like it could be a rubbing alcohol bottle? Also, can you type out all the markings that appear on the larger bottle?

If it's still intact, I'd use the base of the trunk box to build up a new one on.

The taller bottle has no writing on it. Might be rubbing alcohol, havent opened it up to see.
The stubbier bottle might be water(?). The brand is McGaw, and there is a liquid amount scale on the other side (up to 500 mililiters).
That is my plan with the box, other wise I will get measurements for the compartments off another box and what I have to make a new one (with same wood and staples).

Mustang Kid 10-09-2011 10:32 PM

Well, today my car was taken...
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3159.jpg

...on its first drive in 4 years:D
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/P1010466.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/P1010468.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3150.jpg

Sadly, I did not get to go as my dad didnt tell me he was going to drive it.
He didnt go far as the car still doesnt run good, put it in 2nd and the car would want to die. But it does start and move around:thumbs up:

Kinda has the same ride height as Rich's 85. I like it:)
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3157.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3161.jpg

First bath in 4 years:D
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3164.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3165.jpg

After.
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3190.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3201.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3169.jpg

And vaccumed it out.
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3172.jpg

GSPI 10-09-2011 10:32 PM

The one bottle looks like rubbing alcohol (which also can be used for fuel line freeze up prevention depending on the % and as an antiseptic too). Car looks great on the road there Sam!! Don't worry... won't be long and it will be running around with you in a short while!

Mustang Kid 10-09-2011 10:38 PM

What is this? There are bolts at is at the back corners of the floor boards(verticle part of the floor, right below the seat)
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3174.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3175.jpg

Sorting out all the aftermarket radio wires.
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3186.jpg

My new fav shots:)
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3203.jpg

Just need some badges on the doors and some black paint:D
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3187.jpg

93chipper 10-09-2011 11:03 PM

if the bolts are on the passenger side below the back seat it could be like mine was with a bolt that stuck out where the handcuffed the prisoner to

Mustang Kid 10-09-2011 11:07 PM

There is one on both sides of the car. My dads 89 CHP EVOC has them too.

93chipper 10-09-2011 11:16 PM

if it wants to die i would check the fuel filter since it was sitting it may be clogged or not flowing properly

mac88chp 10-10-2011 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustang Kid (Post 30257)
The taller bottle has no writing on it. Might be rubbing alcohol, havent opened it up to see.
The stubbier bottle might be water(?). The brand is McGaw, and there is a liquid amount scale on the other side (up to 500 mililiters).
That is my plan with the box, other wise I will get measurements for the compartments off another box and what I have to make a new one (with same wood and staples).

Thanks for the info!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustang Kid (Post 30261)
What is this? There are bolts at is at the back corners of the floor boards(verticle part of the floor, right below the seat)
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3174.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3175.jpg

Yep, eye bolt for handcuff lanyard attachment. Interesting you have two as I've only ever seen or heard of one of those per car and always on the passenger side as the front seat was the usual spot to put those wearing cuffs. That's where my car has it.

Here's the lanyard:

http://images115.fotki.com/v691/phot...1010083-vi.jpg

Mustang Kid 10-10-2011 09:23 PM

Just checked the EVOC car, I for got it didn't have any.
Are those straps hard to get? How would they mount/be used?

calimustang 10-11-2011 12:22 AM

Wow! after seeing how you washed it, my car hasn't been washed for 7+ years... but doesn't have green slime but DIRTY! Nice to see it being driven... hope you guys fix the stalling issue, it could be bad gas tank or fuel pump or fuel filter...

Mustang Kid 10-11-2011 12:38 AM

I am going to rebuild the original carb and give the engine a tune up. My plan is to still redo the interior here soon, and get the car running good enough to drive. After that I will possibly do a full suspension/mechanical overhaul- repaint/clean everything, add new bushings to the suspention, and go through the engine installing new gasquets. Then in the spring start on body and paint.
:)

mac88chp 10-11-2011 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustang Kid (Post 30288)
Just checked the EVOC car, I for got it didn't have any.
Are those straps hard to get? How would they mount/be used?

I don't see them around too often so you'll have to keep your eyes open for one. It simply clips to the eye bolt on one end and is threaded thru the front seat cushions and clips to the cuffs at the other end.

mac88chp 10-11-2011 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustang Kid (Post 30302)
I am going to rebuild the original carb and give the engine a tune up. My plan is to still redo the interior here soon, and get the car running good enough to drive. After that I will possibly do a full suspension/mechanical overhaul- repaint/clean everything, add new bushings to the suspention, and go through the engine installing new gasquets. Then in the spring start on body and paint.
:)

Your car looks like it's lowered from the stock ride height. If you go with a full-tilt restoration you should restore it back to factory. Probably needs stock springs/struts/shocks to be swapped back in.

Mustang Kid 10-12-2011 12:33 AM

Wonder if springs out of a v6 car would be the smae as what my car needs( I have an 85 v6 convertible parts car).
I also wonder if my car had trim rings while inservice. There are the scarches in the wheels from trim rings. There is an inservice pic of an 82 on the chp restoration page on the main NET site.

CHP8336 10-12-2011 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustang Kid (Post 30342)
Wonder if springs out of a v6 car would be the smae as what my car needs( I have an 85 v6 convertible parts car).
I also wonder if my car had trim rings while inservice. There are the scarches in the wheels from trim rings. There is an inservice pic of an 82 on the chp restoration page on the main NET site.

No trim rings on your car Sam. The CHP did install trim rings on the 1985/1986 cars when they painted them and sold them.

GSPI 10-12-2011 07:26 AM

Springs and spring rates are specific to vehicle type and vehicle equipment in most cases. Most basic cars in general might have springs that will physically fit into another but the spring rate would be wrong. The higher performance a car is, the more significant a spring rate is used to get the car to handle correctly with all of it's components and it can be complex when looking at this problem. Mostly, V6 and V8 car springs are rated different simply because the weight of the engines might be different.

So Reader's Digest version Sam is that you really need to find the specific springs for your car that were designed to be in your car.

Mustang Kid 10-12-2011 10:02 AM

Thanks Rich:)

So I would have to find springs and stuff off of an SSP? Could an 85 5.0 coupe be the same?

28HopUp 10-12-2011 11:35 AM

Sam, the springs/shocks/struts for a 5.0L GT or LX hardtop are what you'll need. The spring rates for a convertible MAY be different.

93chipper 10-12-2011 04:34 PM

or go to fox restoration and buy brand new springs, that way you have no wear on the springs or have to be concerned on the integrity of the springs i would also change out the ball joints since they are over 20 years old and it will save you a fender

Mustang Kid 10-13-2011 12:45 AM

More I'm thinking, I think I will wait on the suspentsion until I have all the new stuff together. Otherwise if I get it all apart, it may be a while before I can get new parts so the car would just sit. I don't want that to happen while other stuff can be done.

Could some of the 85s have had a dual gun rack? If I can't find out where my car served, I think it would be cool to put in a dual rack (if they came in a mustang in 85). I would be making one from scratch( using my some of my dads aero chp racks as a template. Then I would need measure ments for the rack to dash mount)

mac88chp 10-13-2011 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustang Kid (Post 30375)
Could some of the 85s have had a dual gun rack? If I can't find out where my car served, I think it would be cool to put in a dual rack (if they came in a mustang in 85). I would be making one from scratch( using my some of my dads aero chp racks as a template. Then I would need measure ments for the rack to dash mount)

No rifles were issued until 1989 so unless your car was still in service by then and been retrofitted (unlikely), it wouldn't have had a dual gun rack.

mac88chp 10-13-2011 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHP8336 (Post 30344)
No trim rings on your car Sam. The CHP did install trim rings on the 1985/1986 cars when they painted them and sold them.

Little embellishments like trim rings and pinstriping did show up on some, mostly PIO (public information officer), in-service units. This was especially true of the early cars when they were still quite the novelty, much less so on the later models.

Speaking of embellishments, I caught a dusey of one at a CHP event yesterday - simulated twin 50 cal. machine gun barrels protruding from the massive front winch bumper of a Dodge Ram MRE (commercial enforcement) unit! :p

Mustang Kid 10-13-2011 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac88chp (Post 30393)
No rifles were issued until 1989 so unless your car was still in service by then and been retrofitted (unlikely), it wouldn't have had a dual gun rack.

Thanks! Looks like my dads 90 will get the dual rack:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac88chp (Post 30394)
Little embellishments like trim rings and pinstriping did show up on some, mostly PIO (public information officer), in-service units. This was especially true of the early cars when they were still quite the novelty, much less so on the later models.

Speaking of embellishments, I caught a dusey of one at a CHP event yesterday - simulated twin 50 cal. machine gun barrels protruding from the massive front winch bumper of a Dodge Ram MRE (commercial enforcement) unit! :p

It is very possible that my car was a PIO car, or that it went to another agency (like the 91 camaro), as it went to a private owner in 98 (from what I can gather).

Mustang Kid 10-14-2011 11:36 PM

Lots-O-Work done
 
Did a lot of work on Casper this afternoon. Stripped the interior, removed bumpers, taillights, fenders, mouldings and trim. Gonna try and start body work tomorrow. Everything appears to be very straight with no rust to be found on the body. There are just a couple surface rust spots though.
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/P1010483.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/P1010485.jpg

No Rust!!
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/P1010489.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/P1010490.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/P1010493.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3222.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/P1010538.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/P1010539.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/P1010541.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/P1010542.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3252.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3237.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3226.jpg

GSPI 10-14-2011 11:50 PM

Good job Sam! Keep it up.

Mustang Kid 10-15-2011 12:00 AM

Thanks! I will:)

My car also has its original spare wheel/tire.
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3244.jpg

calimustang 10-15-2011 11:04 AM

Wow you have made more progress than i have... Nice job dude on the casper! :2thumbs:

Mustang Kid 10-16-2011 02:09 AM

Thanks!

More work was done today:)
The paint materials/prep work was done so cheaply, that the paint was coming off with a putty knife and razor blade:eek:
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3281.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3280.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3282.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3287.jpg

Repainted the int. mirror covers.
Before
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3303.jpg

After
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3304.jpg

Restored one of the 5.0 emblems(bottom one). The other will come later.
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3311.jpg

Not the correct plate, but it is a CHP plate:D
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3346.jpg

The "fog" happened in the afternoon. One of my dads crown vics had been in a roll over while inservice. My dad changed the engine and swapped different components to the new engine, one of which was the intake. The intake plenum was full of oil, so when the car started, smoke billowed out of the pipes.
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_3411.jpg

I also got all but one of the door moulding off. I used a putty knife and a sledge hammer:D

Mustang Kid 10-16-2011 02:13 AM

Just so you can see how the "fog" happened;)
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_3414.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_3419.jpg

The "fog" is all the way out to the farthest white roof (center, just right a tad)
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_3418.jpg

28HopUp 10-16-2011 09:21 AM

Nice progress Sam! Thanks for the pictures... :)

Mustang Kid 10-29-2011 10:55 PM

Time for a couple vids:D
Is it normal for my car to be nearly silent at the tips? There is just a faint sound of exhaust tone. The noise in the video is from the engine compartment (motor itself is loud). I also got to "drive" it for the first time. It was only 30ft but it was fun:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nuwrc9GMAmE
http://www.youtube.com/user/oneof6km.../1/Ybjcqa4uZm8


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